790.25 cc without a permit
Before the pissing match locked the other thread, we were discussing the legality of cc without a permit, in regards to 790.25. I have included the link to the 2011 statute as well as a link to case law upholding the right to cc without a permit in your home. Please read the statute before contributing, and include your logic and rational behind your stance on the issue. Looking for meaningful discussion on a serious topic. Please leave the dick measuring to to another thread.

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/…s/0790.25.html

http://www.leagle.com/xmlResult.aspx…WAR1-1950-1985

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The 2012 Florida Statutes

Title XLVICRIMES Chapter 790 WEAPONS AND FIREARMS View Entire Chapter
790.25Lawful ownership, possession, and use of firearms and other weapons.—
(1)DECLARATION OF POLICY.—The Legislature finds as a matter of public policy and fact that it is necessary to promote firearms safety and to curb and prevent the use of firearms and other weapons in crime and by incompetent persons without prohibiting the lawful use in defense of life, home, and property, and the use by United States or state military organizations, and as otherwise now authorized by law, including the right to use and own firearms for target practice and marksmanship on target practice ranges or other lawful places, and lawful hunting and other lawful purposes.
(2)USES NOT AUTHORIZED.—
(a)This section does not authorize carrying a concealed weapon without a permit, as prohibited by ss. 790.01 and 790.02.
(b)The protections of this section do not apply to the following:
1.A person who has been adjudged mentally incompetent, who is addicted to the use of narcotics or any similar drug, or who is a habitual or chronic alcoholic, or a person using weapons or firearms in violation of ss. 790.07-790.115, 790.145-790.19, 790.22-790.24;
2.Vagrants and other undesirable persons as defined in 1s. 856.02;
3.A person in or about a place of nuisance as defined in s. 823.05, unless such person is there for law enforcement or some other lawful purpose.
(3)LAWFUL USES.—The provisions of ss. 790.053 and 790.06 do not apply in the following instances, and, despite such sections, it is lawful for the following persons to own, possess, and lawfully use firearms and other weapons, ammunition, and supplies for lawful purposes:
(a)Members of the Militia, National Guard, Florida State Defense Force, Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, Coast Guard, organized reserves, and other armed forces of the state and of the United States, when on duty, when training or preparing themselves for military duty, or while subject to recall or mobilization;
(b)Citizens of this state subject to duty in the Armed Forces under s. 2, Art. X of the State Constitution, under chapters 250 and 251, and under federal laws, when on duty or when training or preparing themselves for military duty;
(c)Persons carrying out or training for emergency management duties under chapter 252;
(d)Sheriffs, marshals, prison or jail wardens, police officers, Florida highway patrol officers, game wardens, revenue officers, forest officials, special officers appointed under the provisions of chapter 354, and other peace and law enforcement officers and their deputies and assistants and full-time paid peace officers of other states and of the Federal Government who are carrying out official duties while in this state;
(e)Officers or employees of the state or United States duly authorized to carry a concealed weapon;
(f)Guards or messengers of common carriers, express companies, armored car carriers, mail carriers, banks, and other financial institutions, while actually employed in and about the shipment, transportation, or delivery of any money, treasure, bullion, bonds, or other thing of value within this state;
(g)Regularly enrolled members of any organization duly authorized to purchase or receive weapons from the United States or from this state, or regularly enrolled members of clubs organized for target, skeet, or trap shooting, while at or going to or from shooting practice; or regularly enrolled members of clubs organized for modern or antique firearms collecting, while such members are at or going to or from their collectors’ gun shows, conventions, or exhibits;
(h)A person engaged in fishing, camping, or lawful hunting or going to or returning from a fishing, camping, or lawful hunting expedition;
(i)A person engaged in the business of manufacturing, repairing, or dealing in firearms, or the agent or representative of any such person while engaged in the lawful course of such business;
(j)A person firing weapons for testing or target practice under safe conditions and in a safe place not prohibited by law or going to or from such place;
(k)A person firing weapons in a safe and secure indoor range for testing and target practice;
(l)A person traveling by private conveyance when the weapon is securely encased or in a public conveyance when the weapon is securely encased and not in the person’s manual possession;
(m)A person while carrying a pistol unloaded and in a secure wrapper, concealed or otherwise, from the place of purchase to his or her home or place of business or to a place of repair or back to his or her home or place of business;
(n)A person possessing arms at his or her home or place of business;
(o)Investigators employed by the several public defenders of the state, while actually carrying out official duties, provided such investigators:
1.Are employed full time;
2.Meet the official training standards for firearms established by the Criminal Justice Standards and Training Commission as provided in s. 943.12(5) and the requirements of ss. 493.6108(1)(a) and943.13(1)-(4); and
3.Are individually designated by an affidavit of consent signed by the employing public defender and filed with the clerk of the circuit court in the county in which the employing public defender resides.
(p)Investigators employed by the capital collateral regional counsel, while actually carrying out official duties, provided such investigators:
1.Are employed full time;
2.Meet the official training standards for firearms as established by the Criminal Justice Standards and Training Commission as provided in s. 943.12(1) and the requirements of ss.493.6108(1)(a) and 943.13(1)-(4); and
3.Are individually designated by an affidavit of consent signed by the capital collateral regional counsel and filed with the clerk of the circuit court in the county in which the investigator is headquartered.
(4)CONSTRUCTION.—This act shall be liberally construed to carry out the declaration of policy herein and in favor of the constitutional right to keep and bear arms for lawful purposes. This act is supplemental and additional to existing rights to bear arms now guaranteed by law and decisions of the courts of Florida, and nothing herein shall impair or diminish any of such rights. This act shall supersede any law, ordinance, or regulation in conflict herewith.
(5)POSSESSION IN PRIVATE CONVEYANCE.—Notwithstanding subsection (2), it is lawful and is not a violation of s. 790.01 for a person 18 years of age or older to possess a concealed firearm or other weapon for self-defense or other lawful purpose within the interior of a private conveyance, without a license, if the firearm or other weapon is securely encased or is otherwise not readily accessible for immediate use. Nothing herein contained prohibits the carrying of a legal firearm other than a handgun anywhere in a private conveyance when such firearm is being carried for a lawful use. Nothing herein contained shall be construed to authorize the carrying of a concealed firearm or other weapon on the person. This subsection shall be liberally construed in favor of the lawful use, ownership, and possession of firearms and other weapons, including lawful self-defense as provided in s. 776.012.

790.25 cc without a permit
Before the pissing match locked the other thread, we were discussing the legality of cc without a permit, in regards to 790.25. I have included the link to the 2011 statute as well as a link to case law upholding the right to cc without a permit in your home. Please read the statute before contributing, and include your logic and rational behind your stance on the issue. Looking for meaningful discussion on a serious topic. Please leave the dick measuring to to another thread.

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/…s/0790.25.html

http://www.leagle.com/xmlResult.aspx…WAR1-1950-1985

===============================================

The 2012 Florida Statutes
 
Title XLVICRIMES Chapter 790 WEAPONS AND FIREARMS View Entire Chapter
790.25Lawful ownership, possession, and use of firearms and other weapons.—
 (1)DECLARATION OF POLICY.—The Legislature finds as a matter of public policy and fact that it is necessary to promote firearms safety and to curb and prevent the use of firearms and other weapons in crime and by incompetent persons without prohibiting the lawful use in defense of life, home, and property, and the use by United States or state military organizations, and as otherwise now authorized by law, including the right to use and own firearms for target practice and marksmanship on target practice ranges or other lawful places, and lawful hunting and other lawful purposes.
 (2)USES NOT AUTHORIZED.—
 (a)This section does not authorize carrying a concealed weapon without a permit, as prohibited by ss. 790.01 and 790.02.
 (b)The protections of this section do not apply to the following:
 1.A person who has been adjudged mentally incompetent, who is addicted to the use of narcotics or any similar drug, or who is a habitual or chronic alcoholic, or a person using weapons or firearms in violation of ss. 790.07-790.115, 790.145-790.19, 790.22-790.24;
 2.Vagrants and other undesirable persons as defined in 1s. 856.02;
 3.A person in or about a place of nuisance as defined in s. 823.05, unless such person is there for law enforcement or some other lawful purpose.
 (3)LAWFUL USES.—The provisions of ss. 790.053 and 790.06 do not apply in the following instances, and, despite such sections, it is lawful for the following persons to own, possess, and lawfully use firearms and other weapons, ammunition, and supplies for lawful purposes:
 (a)Members of the Militia, National Guard, Florida State Defense Force, Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, Coast Guard, organized reserves, and other armed forces of the state and of the United States, when on duty, when training or preparing themselves for military duty, or while subject to recall or mobilization;
 (b)Citizens of this state subject to duty in the Armed Forces under s. 2, Art. X of the State Constitution, under chapters 250 and 251, and under federal laws, when on duty or when training or preparing themselves for military duty;
 (c)Persons carrying out or training for emergency management duties under chapter 252;
 (d)Sheriffs, marshals, prison or jail wardens, police officers, Florida highway patrol officers, game wardens, revenue officers, forest officials, special officers appointed under the provisions of chapter 354, and other peace and law enforcement officers and their deputies and assistants and full-time paid peace officers of other states and of the Federal Government who are carrying out official duties while in this state;
 (e)Officers or employees of the state or United States duly authorized to carry a concealed weapon;
 (f)Guards or messengers of common carriers, express companies, armored car carriers, mail carriers, banks, and other financial institutions, while actually employed in and about the shipment, transportation, or delivery of any money, treasure, bullion, bonds, or other thing of value within this state;
 (g)Regularly enrolled members of any organization duly authorized to purchase or receive weapons from the United States or from this state, or regularly enrolled members of clubs organized for target, skeet, or trap shooting, while at or going to or from shooting practice; or regularly enrolled members of clubs organized for modern or antique firearms collecting, while such members are at or going to or from their collectors’ gun shows, conventions, or exhibits;
 (h)A person engaged in fishing, camping, or lawful hunting or going to or returning from a fishing, camping, or lawful hunting expedition;
 (i)A person engaged in the business of manufacturing, repairing, or dealing in firearms, or the agent or representative of any such person while engaged in the lawful course of such business;
 (j)A person firing weapons for testing or target practice under safe conditions and in a safe place not prohibited by law or going to or from such place;
 (k)A person firing weapons in a safe and secure indoor range for testing and target practice;
 (l)A person traveling by private conveyance when the weapon is securely encased or in a public conveyance when the weapon is securely encased and not in the person’s manual possession;
 (m)A person while carrying a pistol unloaded and in a secure wrapper, concealed or otherwise, from the place of purchase to his or her home or place of business or to a place of repair or back to his or her home or place of business;
 (n)A person possessing arms at his or her home or place of business;
 (o)Investigators employed by the several public defenders of the state, while actually carrying out official duties, provided such investigators:
 1.Are employed full time;
 2.Meet the official training standards for firearms established by the Criminal Justice Standards and Training Commission as provided in s. 943.12(5) and the requirements of ss. 493.6108(1)(a) and943.13(1)-(4); and
 3.Are individually designated by an affidavit of consent signed by the employing public defender and filed with the clerk of the circuit court in the county in which the employing public defender resides.
 (p)Investigators employed by the capital collateral regional counsel, while actually carrying out official duties, provided such investigators:
 1.Are employed full time;
 2.Meet the official training standards for firearms as established by the Criminal Justice Standards and Training Commission as provided in s. 943.12(1) and the requirements of ss.493.6108(1)(a) and 943.13(1)-(4); and
 3.Are individually designated by an affidavit of consent signed by the capital collateral regional counsel and filed with the clerk of the circuit court in the county in which the investigator is headquartered.
 (4)CONSTRUCTION.—This act shall be liberally construed to carry out the declaration of policy herein and in favor of the constitutional right to keep and bear arms for lawful purposes. This act is supplemental and additional to existing rights to bear arms now guaranteed by law and decisions of the courts of Florida, and nothing herein shall impair or diminish any of such rights. This act shall supersede any law, ordinance, or regulation in conflict herewith.
 (5)POSSESSION IN PRIVATE CONVEYANCE.—Notwithstanding subsection (2), it is lawful and is not a violation of s. 790.01 for a person 18 years of age or older to possess a concealed firearm or other weapon for self-defense or other lawful purpose within the interior of a private conveyance, without a license, if the firearm or other weapon is securely encased or is otherwise not readily accessible for immediate use. Nothing herein contained prohibits the carrying of a legal firearm other than a handgun anywhere in a private conveyance when such firearm is being carried for a lawful use. Nothing herein contained shall be construed to authorize the carrying of a concealed firearm or other weapon on the person. This subsection shall be liberally construed in favor of the lawful use, ownership, and possession of firearms and other weapons, including lawful self-defense as provided in s. 776.012.

One way to spot organic produce in the store is to check out each food’s
price look-up number or PLU. You’ll find a PLU label on each piece of
produce, attached as a sticker. The International Federation for Produce
Coding standardizes PLU codes for every grocery store in the country.
Conventionally grown fruits and vegetable have 4-digit numbers and
generally begin with a 3 or a 5. Organically grown fruits and vegetables
have 5 digits and begin with a 9. Genetically modified fruits and
vegetables also have 5 digits and begin with an 8. For example , the PLU
for a conventionally grown banana is 4011; for an organic banana is
94011, and for a genetically modified banana it’s 84011.
Source: Adapted from www.plucodes.com

FRUITS & VEGGIES
DON’T BUY OR EAT GMO’S
Conventionally grown =4-digit numbers begin with a 3 or a 5.
Organically grown = 5 digits and begin with a 9.
GMO =Genetically modified 5 digits and begin with an 8
EXAMPLES:
for a conventionally grown banana is 4011;
for an organic banana is 94011,
for a( GMO )genetically modified banana it’s 84011.
TO REMEMBER THIS
REMEMBER THIS SENTENCE
” DON’T EAT 8′S “

  I am really getting tired of FEMA and their crap and most of all I am getting tired of Americans NOT understanding what is going on in this country!!!!   Apparently Gunderson steel has been doing this since 04… with Bush Jr. 

Disclaimer: I’m not a Lawyer, this is not legal advice. Nor am I a Brain Surgeon, Pastry Chef or Indian Chief. This communication is private and privileged intended only to those individuals marked “To”, “CC” or “BCC”. To the snoopy government agencies, or anyone else, this mail isn’t being specifically directed to; with all due Respect; cordially invited and instructed to take a hike:)
Sincerely, Jack Bauer aka RadioRebel

Germany to the Fed: We Demand to See Our Gold!

Posted by Adam English – Thursday, November 1st, 2012

As previously reported, the German federal auditors’ office has publicly criticized Bundesbank, its central bank, saying they should be more pro-active when it comes to taking control and responsibility for the county’s gold reserves stored in the United States, Britain, and France.

Now they’re encountering the same thing domestic politicians and citizens in the USA have faced for decades. The Fed is stonewalling the Germans and refusing to let them even see the gold they own.

Previous and repeated requests were only partially addressed. Bundesbank staff members were allowed to see the facility in 2007, but they reportedly only made it to the anteroom of the German reserves.

Bundesbank auditors made a second visit in May 2011. This time one of the nine compartments used to store Germany’s gold was opened. Only a few bars were pulled out and weighed, but that was it.

Even the details of this minuscule inspection were blacked out in a German auditor’s report “out of consideration for the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.”

So far, the 1,536 metric tons of gold, worth about $93 billion at spot prices, has only been backed up by personal assurances.

The Fed’s secrecy has warranted increasing suspicion and concern. It is understandable to limit access as much as possible for security reasons.

However, these are high-ranking officials with $93 billion in deposits. The Fed is merely holding the reserves for the Germans and is refusing to allow them to inspect what they own.

The Fed’s actions only help validate claims that Germany’s gold is long gone or been lent out and that promissory notes — official “IOUs” — are sitting in the vault. The Fed has vehemently denied the claims but has worked tirelessly to avoid any form of inspection.

The leaked report from the German auditors has caused grave concern in Berlin about the gold reserves entrusted to the Fed.

Bundesbank board member Carl-Ludwig Thiele cautiously stated, “I would like more transparency on the issue.”

However, tame assurances and diplomatic understatements will not suffice. Thiele was summoned to Berlin to provide an explanation to a parliamentary budget committee.

Heinz-Peter Haustein, of the pro-business Free Democratic Party, stated during the hearing, “all the gold has to be shipped back.”

The Bundesbank has pledged to bring back and inspect 150 tons of gold from abroad over the next several years. There are also plans to count and weigh the gold bars stored in one of its nine chambers at the Fed in New York.

As to what inspecting a mere 11% of Germany’s reserves will actually settle, when a direct inspection will occur and how much of the 150 tons shipped back to Berlin will come from the Fed, no details are available